All Discussions Tagged '16dec2013' - World Viewz2024-03-29T00:26:28Zhttp://worldviewzmedia.net/forum/topic/listForTag?tag=16dec2013&feed=yes&xn_auth=no2011 ? 2012 ? OR 2013 ??? CALLEMAN VS JENKINS VS SCHWENGER - THE 13TH GRAND CYCLE STARTS 17 DEC 2013tag:worldviewzmedia.net,2010-08-04:2098065:Topic:375042010-08-04T06:01:25.707ZSusan Lynne Schwengerhttp://worldviewzmedia.net/profile/SusanLynneSerafinaSchwenger
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<h2><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="font-size: 16px;"><span><a href="http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=139385506080218&topic=185"><font color="#000000">~ <u>Calleman vs Jenkins</u></font></a></span></span></span></h2>
<h2><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="font-size: 16px;"><span><a href="http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=139385506080218&topic=185"><font color="#000000"><u>Â 28/OCT/2011 VS 21/DEC/2012 End-Time</u></font></a></span></span></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="font-size: 16px;"><span id="loading_page"><img alt="" class="img" src="http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/rsrc.php/zBS5C/hash/7hwy7at6.gif" height="11" width="16"/></span></span></span></h2>
<div class="topic_actions"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="font-size: 16px;">Susan Lynne Serafina Schwenger aka Seraf'ina says:<br/>
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" The Great Debate of the 10/28/2011 vs 12/21/2012 End-Time by Carl Johan Calleman & John Major Jenkins ~ This has gone on, for too long !!!<br/>
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Calleman believes, that 10/28/2011<br/>
<br/>
~ Tone 13, Acension, SUN (AHAU) is right,<br/>
<br/>
while Jenkins believes, that 12/21/2012<br/>
<br/>
~ Tone 4, Stablity SUN (AHAU) is right,<br/>
<br/>
which makes us, pose a question...<br/>
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what if, both of them, are on the right path,<br/>
<br/>
but, neither one of them,<br/>
<br/>
have yet to determine the right end-date ???<br/>
<br/>
There is NO doubt, we live in interesting times,<br/>
<br/>
a time, when truth, can oft times, be stranger than fiction.<br/>
<br/>
These two remarkable men, have both, put their whole hearts,<br/>
<br/>
along with their souls, into the 'good work',<br/>
<br/>
they both do, and, they have both diligently,<br/>
<br/>
and, eloquently expressed<br/>
<br/>
their beliefs, as, their truths, and, done it,<br/>
<br/>
with the highest eXpression of truth,<br/>
<br/>
which is to operate in love.<br/>
<br/>
Both have been amazing, and, pivotal forces, in this word,<br/>
<br/>
and, have brought people to a point, where many became curious.<br/>
<br/>
It takes a candle, to light another candle, and,<br/>
<br/>
in the process, they have created many inquiring minds,<br/>
<br/>
and, educated many, and, also, added their piece of The Puzzle.<br/>
<br/>
Both of them, have 'lit' the way, to the final discovery of truth,<br/>
<br/>
and, there is NOT anything higher in life, to aspire to do,<br/>
<br/>
than to do remarkable, and, good work.<br/>
<br/>
Both have done it, to be it,<br/>
<br/>
and, both have had to be it, to do it.<br/>
<br/>
There is NO doubt, in our mind,<br/>
<br/>
that both October 28, 2011, and, December 21, 2012,<br/>
<br/>
are pivotal dates, upon the path of discovering,<br/>
<br/>
the truth, and, the real date.<br/>
<br/>
This world is full, of many, who are still asking themselves,<br/>
<br/>
the big question, is it 28 OCT 2011 or 21 DEC 2012 ???<br/>
<br/>
This "2011, or 2012 Phenomenon"<br/>
<br/>
is NOT about to just get swept under a rug,<br/>
<br/>
anymore, than the people who are searching for the answer,<br/>
<br/>
are going to stop, or, sit around like bumps on logs.<br/>
<br/>
For many, the light of night candles, burns deep into the night.<br/>
<br/>
Most, do NOT even begin to fathom, or realize,<br/>
<br/>
what it takes, to be a fore-runner, or, to be a researcher,<br/>
<br/>
and, what it means, to truly hunt for the 'needle' in the haystack.<br/>
<br/>
We respect all people, all the men and, all the women<br/>
<br/>
who have put their energy into this important body of work,<br/>
<br/>
in an attempt to solve this great mystery, as, the sheer force and,<br/>
<br/>
magnitude of that is as powerful, as, it is immense.<br/>
<br/>
I admire, both of them, as, well, as many others,<br/>
<br/>
Ian Xel Lungold, who i crossed paths with in 1999,<br/>
<br/>
along with Wandering Wolf, who is now,<br/>
<br/>
The elected Grandfather of The Guatemalans.<br/>
<br/>
Another person, who has done plenty of good work<br/>
<br/>
also holds another part of the key,<br/>
<br/>
is Dr. Jose Arguelles, Phd, of The Dreamspell.<br/>
<br/>
All of the above men, have been amazing, and, pivotal forces, in this world.<br/>
<br/>
All of them have brought great levels of awareness,<br/>
<br/>
along with significant discoveries,<br/>
<br/>
which have engaged people, and, brought many people to a point,<br/>
<br/>
where they have 'lit' the "torches"<br/>
<br/>
of many, who also possess inquiring minds, and, in the process,<br/>
<br/>
all of them, have 'lit' the way, to the discovery of truth.<br/>
<br/>
There is NOT anything higher in life, to aspire to,<br/>
<br/>
and, I appreciate, I respect, and, I value all of them, and, their work.<br/>
<br/>
There is NO doubt, in our mind,<br/>
<br/>
that both October 28, 2011, along with December 21, 2012,<br/>
<br/>
are pivotal dates, upon the path of discovering,<br/>
<br/>
the truth, and, the real date, through the cycles of the moon.<br/>
<br/>
Is there a way, that everyone, will come out of this,<br/>
<br/>
with both their integrity, along with their intellect, still intact ???<br/>
<br/>
Jenkins has appeared on a History Channel documentary,<br/>
<br/>
making his December 21 2012 presentation, and, it has created quite a stir.<br/>
<br/>
While Calleman, holds to his October 28, 2011, as a fixed date.<br/>
<br/>
Let's face it, The Georgian Calendar, put out in the 16th century,<br/>
<br/>
by a catholic pope, Pope Gregory was designed to lead people,<br/>
<br/>
out of a natural occurring method, of Day-Keeping,<br/>
<br/>
along with Record-Keeping, and, Time-Keeping,<br/>
<br/>
three of the most esteemed functions,<br/>
<br/>
that were assigned to wise men, and, wise women, in the past.<br/>
<br/>
This new calendar, was designed, to turn this whole world,<br/>
<br/>
into a 'TICK/TOCK' ~ 24 hrs a day, 7 days a week, charade and, circus.<br/>
<br/>
However, if one takes, and, blends, all of the calendars,<br/>
<br/>
and, utilizes very simple formulas,<br/>
<br/>
along with mathematics, and, advanced mathematics,<br/>
<br/>
and, puts all of that into their hypothesis,<br/>
<br/>
and, extends it, to incorporate,<br/>
<br/>
NOT only proven mathematics,<br/>
<br/>
but, time tested, and, time honoured traditions,<br/>
<br/>
along with cycles of nature, maybe, a scientific theory,<br/>
<br/>
is NOT necessary.<br/>
<br/>
Beliefs, are NOT always proven, to be truths.<br/>
<br/>
Both, October 28, 2011 end date,<br/>
<br/>
along with December 21, 2012 end date,<br/>
<br/>
can be proven to be major stepping stones,<br/>
<br/>
to the discovery of 'real' truth.<br/>
<br/>
The 'real' mystery has NOT been solved by<br/>
<br/>
either Calleman, Jenkins, nor Arguelles<br/>
<br/>
however, all of them are definitely standing upon,<br/>
<br/>
the right 'stepping-stones'.<br/>
<br/>
Another person, has recently entered the picture,<br/>
<br/>
and, they have solved the puzzle.<br/>
<br/>
Through 5 & 13 - along<br/>
<br/>
with the sequencing code of 13-26-39-52-65,<br/>
<br/>
of The Great Transformation<br/>
<br/>
with a start date of 27 MAY 2010<br/>
<br/>
with an end-time of 16 DEC 2013<br/>
<br/>
by Susan Lynne "Serafina" Schwenger aka Seraf'ina<br/>
<br/>
aka The eXchanger<br/>
<br/>
with a great deal of assistance, help, and, support<br/>
<br/>
from Tony Bermanseder aka Abraxasinus<br/>
<br/>
Our research work can be found on <a href="http://www.cosmosdawn.com/">www.cosmosdawn.com</a><br/>260 Kin thread <br/></span></span></div>
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